Got a pair of DD Paramount 45s with the rounded outside edge and man they are hard to Hub Lift!! These are gonna be a challenge for a good long while! After a couple of sets, I brought out a harder plate to Hub Lift, a York DD 20 Kg plate and did a quick pull on that before going to the Paramount. It was an effective strategy. That Paramount Hub is only slightly easier. The contrast effect worked very well in this situation.<br /> BTW, if you ever see training photos of Arnold & Franco @ Gold's in the 60s/70s, these are the plates you'll see them use. God Bless!!