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Detangling IHOPKC - Crossroads of John Wimber and Bob Jones - Episode 195 Branham Research Podcast

2024-09-30 6 Dailymotion

John Wimber Research Page:<br />https://william-branham.org/site/research/people/john_wimber<br /><br />Support the show:<br />https://www.patreon.com/branham <br /><br />Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts:<br />https://william-branham.org/podcast <br /><br />Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR:<br />Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962<br />Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K<br /><br />This podcast episode delves into the entangled connections between the International House of Prayer Kansas City (IHOPKC), the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR), and figures like William Branham, John Wimber, and Bob Jones. The discussion kicks off with an exploration of the complex history and the difficulties in separating truth from deception in these movements. The hosts, John Collins and Brantley Smith, emphasize the challenges of discerning individuals’ intentions—whether they were misguided, manipulated, or predators—while also addressing their contributions to the movement. They offer insight into the cult-like behavior that pervades these organizations, particularly focusing on spiritual abuse and its correlation with more egregious misconduct.<br /><br />A key segment of the episode scrutinizes the roles of John Wimber, Mike Bickle, Paul Cain, and Bob Jones, discussing their influence on the charismatic movement and the controversial behaviors that were often shielded or overlooked. The episode highlights Wimber’s role in addressing Bob Jones’ abuse, illustrating Wimber’s transparent and strict approach to discipline in comparison to other leaders. Ultimately, the podcast paints a picture of a religious landscape rife with abuse of power, secrecy, and the gray areas between genuine faith and manipulation.<br /><br />00:00 Introduction <br />05:00 Detangling IHOPKC and the NAR <br />10:00 Historical connections to William Branham and adjacent movements <br />15:00 John Wimber’s revolutionary role and mistakes <br />23:00 Addressing the abusive culture in IHOP and the cult-like behaviors <br />30:00 Bob Jones, his rise to power, and connections to Mike Bickle <br />38:00 The Kansas City Prophets and questionable prophetic practices <br />45:00 John Wimber’s discipline of Bob Jones and transparency <br />50:00 Power abuse in charismatic movements and spiritual manipulation <br />55:00 Reflections on leadership, accountability, and healing <br />1:00:05 Closing remarks on learning from history<br /><br />______________________<br />– Support the channel: https://www.patreon.com/branham<br />– Subscribe to the channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ<br />– Visit the website: https://william-branham.org<br />– Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg <br />– Follow on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham<br />– Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr<br />– Buy the books: https://william-branham.org/site/books

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