John and Charles discuss the rise and influence of Pearry Green—one of the most controversial figures in the post-Branham “message” sect. Despite entering the movement just two years before William Branham’s death, Green rapidly rose to power by stepping over more established leaders, manipulating church structures, and allegedly exploiting congregants for financial and spiritual control.<br /><br />Charles shares insider details on how Green’s abrupt intrusion into leadership caused early rifts, including conflicts with ministers that Branham himself had appointed. They explore how Green’s founding of the Tucson Tabernacle—under disputed circumstances—fueled division, and how his strategic alliance with Billy Paul Branham helped them seize control of key message institutions.<br /><br />The conversation traces Green’s network of businesses, his alleged financial kickbacks, and the disturbing ways message leaders combined religious control with economic coercion. From violent incidents to legal battles and immigrant exploitation, this episode uncovers the cultic structure and criminal influence that allowed Pearry Green’s empire to grow after Branham’s death.<br /><br />⸻<br /><br />📘 Chapters<br />00:00 Introduction<br />01:08 Pearry Green’s Rise After Branham’s Death<br />04:00 Origins of the Copyright Schism<br />05:56 How Green Entered the Movement in 1964<br />07:20 Tensions with Early Jeffersonville Leaders<br />09:17 The Myth of Perfection in Leadership<br />10:26 Green’s Claimed Wealth and Personality<br />12:07 Green’s Reputation Among Message Preachers<br />13:30 Conflict Over the Tucson Church<br />16:51 Fallout from Branham’s Death and Green’s Power Grab<br />19:03 Slapping Incident at the Hospital<br />23:01 Comparing Green’s Behavior to Papal Politics<br />25:06 The Power Struggle with Other Leaders<br />27:06 The Green–Billy Paul Alliance<br />31:04 Expanding the Message into Latin America<br />33:21 Financial Kickbacks and Message Empires<br />36:16 Green’s Business Network and Control of Members<br />40:18 Religious Coercion in Business Settings<br />43:13 Exploiting Immigrants and Message Followers<br />47:16 Transitioning to Literature and Legal Battles<br />49:45 Closing Remarks and Next Episode Preview<br /><br />⸻<br /><br />🎧 Listen to the Podcast<br />Available on Spotify, Google, and Apple Podcasts:<br />https://william-branham.org/podcast<br /><br />📘 Books Mentioned<br />– Weaponized Religion: From Christian Identity to the NAR<br /> Paperback: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1735160962<br /> Kindle: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DCGGZX3K<br />– Come Out of Her My People, Vol. II<br /> https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DNFN2XYR<br /><br />⸻<br /><br />🙏 Support & Follow the Channel<br />– Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/branham<br />– Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCBSpezVG15TVG-lOYMRXuyQ<br />– Website: https://william-branham.org<br />– Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WilliamBranhamOrg<br />– TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@william.m.branham<br />– Twitter: https://twitter.com/wmbhr<br />– Bookstore: https://william-branham.org/site/books
