picnic table hop to manual, the picnic table is about 3-4 inches less than my stem on my 24" BMX<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://ll.broadbandsports.com/images/untitled_3.thumbnail_12.jpg" alt="B.I.K.E - Picnic Table hop to Manual" title="B.I.K.E - Picnic Table hop to Manual" width="150" height="90" alt="B.I.K.E - Picnic Table hop to Manual"/>